Paige
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Post by Paige on May 16, 2009 11:48:35 GMT -5
Does anyone know of a really thorough English grammar handbook? I'm wanting to find one since I'm going to be an English teacher. I don't take any grammar classes as an English Education major (makes perfect sense, huh), so I think it'd be useful to have to double-check things, especially since things have changed since I was taught grammar in high school. (i.e., words that end in "s" still have to have 's in possessive form [Apollonius's Argonautica].) Definitely wasn't like that when they taught us. We just added the '.
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Halie
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Post by Halie on May 16, 2009 13:36:41 GMT -5
I didn't know that. I'm still in high school and have always been taught to just add an apostrophe to the end.
This isn't grammar and it's for use in newspapers but the AP Stylebook is very useful.
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Michelle
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Post by Michelle on May 16, 2009 22:14:58 GMT -5
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Michelle
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Post by Michelle on May 16, 2009 22:16:13 GMT -5
Do you like that I wrote "thought's" there in a response to a grammar question.
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Paige
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Post by Paige on May 17, 2009 0:23:24 GMT -5
Thanks! Those both look like they'd be useful. And I didn't even notice that you wrote "thought's." Some English teacher, huh?
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Post by belle on May 17, 2009 2:09:54 GMT -5
I can recommend "A student's Introduction to English Grammar" (which is not only an introduction really) by R. Huddlestone (Cambridge Univeristy Press, Cambridge, 2005) which I use in my grammar course. And since I want to become an english teacher as well, this might help you.
Others are: A Student's English Grammar by R. Quirk and S. Greenbaum (Longman, 1990), A Grammar of Spoken and Written English by D. Biber, G. Leech and S. Conrad (Longman, 1999) and The Oxford Grammar of English by S. Greenbaum (OUP, 1996).
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Kristie
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Post by Kristie on May 17, 2009 14:48:08 GMT -5
Does anyone know of a really thorough English grammar handbook? I'm wanting to find one since I'm going to be an English teacher. I don't take any grammar classes as an English Education major (makes perfect sense, huh), so I think it'd be useful to have to double-check things, especially since things have changed since I was taught grammar in high school. (i.e., words that end in "s" still have to have 's in possessive form [Apollonius's Argonautica].) Definitely wasn't like that when they taught us. We just added the '. I never learned grammar. The most I learned was when I took a foreign language. My college professors for English 111 & 112 assumed I knew stuff about grammar, but they were wrong For the most part, I stick with what I learned. I keep my commas before the "and" in a long list in sentence form and still only use the apostraphe without another "s" after a word ending in "s". They change this stuff all the time, so I refuse to change it, only to have them change it back again. My mom can remember at least 4 times the comma before the "and" has been taken away and put back!
To answer your question though, no I don't know of an a good grammar handbook. I know some AYA Education ILA majors though, so I will ask around!
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Paige
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Post by Paige on May 18, 2009 10:57:23 GMT -5
I can recommend "A student's Introduction to English Grammar" (which is not only an introduction really) by R. Huddlestone (Cambridge Univeristy Press, Cambridge, 2005) which I use in my grammar course. And since I want to become an english teacher as well, this might help you. Others are: A Student's English Grammar by R. Quirk and S. Greenbaum (Longman, 1990), A Grammar of Spoken and Written English by D. Biber, G. Leech and S. Conrad (Longman, 1999) and The Oxford Grammar of English by S. Greenbaum (OUP, 1996). Thanks! I'll check those out!
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Paige
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Post by Paige on May 18, 2009 11:01:08 GMT -5
I never learned grammar. The most I learned was when I took a foreign language. My college professors for English 111 & 112 assumed I knew stuff about grammar, but they were wrong For the most part, I stick with what I learned. I keep my commas before the "and" in a long list in sentence form and still only use the apostraphe without another "s" after a word ending in "s". They change this stuff all the time, so I refuse to change it, only to have them change it back again. My mom can remember at least 4 times the comma before the "and" has been taken away and put back!
To answer your question though, no I don't know of an a good grammar handbook. I know some AYA Education ILA majors though, so I will ask around! I know what you mean about not wanting to change. I'm not so crazy about it either, but I figure I should. My last paper that was handed back was graded by the professor who's really big on language and grammar. He kept circling little things that I swear were correct when I was in high school. It's so frustrating...it's not like I have time to search for grammar updates. I'm sure he receives updates all the time because he's so in love with the English language/grammar.
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