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Post by Isa on Jul 5, 2007 16:26:33 GMT -5
it's just another person Caroline Bingley can hate the Bennet clan with. ;D You crack me up, Kristie!! A28) If Mr. Hurst serves one purpose in the book it's to reinforce Austen's opinion of dreadful marriages. Even if her novels are always about the heroine's quest for love and even though she can be quite romantic at times, it's easy to see that Austen has a very sensible vision of marriage and she knows that if two people get together for the wrong reasons, it can end in disaster. In P&P, we already have the example of Mr. & Mrs. Bennet, and in case that wasn't sufficient enough to convince the reader, I guess she threw in Mr. & Mrs. Hurst! Q29) In the end we find out that both Caroline Bingley and Lady Catherine ended up visiting Pemberley after Darcy and Elizabeth's wedding. Which of these two visits surprised you the most?
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Post by sagedautumn on Jul 5, 2007 19:36:26 GMT -5
Good Question!!!
Probably Lady Catherine.... Austen protrayed her as extremely prideful but in the negative way. While Elizabeth gives up on all prejudices once she sees the true Darcy Lady Catherine remains obstinant even if it's hitting her in the face! She still has hopes that Darcy will marry her sick daughter even though that is far from the truth... Caroline I am not surprised by at the least. She goes on appearences and status. If you are filthy rich anything is pardonable just look at what her sister married into!!I could see her trying to sweet talk Liz after all the trouble she gave her!
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Post by Carma on Jul 6, 2007 8:23:08 GMT -5
I recent;ly read the book and I already forgot all those names!! I should re read it!
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Post by Isa on Jul 6, 2007 9:44:25 GMT -5
I think you're right, sagedautumn, Austen does say something about Caroline not wanting to sacrifice her rights to visit Pemberley and so she quickly learned to get over her dislike of Elizabeth. But to be honest, I was still more surprised by Caroline's than Lady Catherine's visit. Even though Lady Catherine was mortified by Darcy's choice of a wife, it was clear during Lizzie's visit at Rosings Park that she thought she was an interesting and clever young woman. So I wasn't all that surprised to see that after letting sufficient time past to clearly show the world how angry she was (!) she would finally accept an invitation to Pemberley. Caroline on the other hand has no family ties with Darcy, she's only his best friend's sister, so I thought she wouldn't be interested in going there now that Darcy wasn't eligible anymore. But like you said, she really is that shallow and would probably do anything for the sake of keeping up appearances!
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Post by Michelle on Jul 6, 2007 18:32:07 GMT -5
I agree with sage. I think of Lady Catherine of this stubborn old woman who wouldn't cave in while Caroline is just a suck-up and would try to get in with the new, rich couple. But given that money changed everyone's opinions back then, neither really surprises me.
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Post by Lu on Jul 10, 2007 13:28:06 GMT -5
A29)I agree with sage, I was surprised the most by Lady Catherine's visit as well.
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Post by pageturner37 on Aug 27, 2007 19:57:39 GMT -5
i was at the book store and there are so many different pride and prejudice books and i was wondering if there was a certain one that you guys would suggest, because maybe theres a difference. not sure so i thought i would ask...thanks.
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Post by Isa on Aug 28, 2007 7:23:48 GMT -5
For classics I usually go for the Oxford or Penguin editions because they always have great introductions and endnotes. My copy of P&P is the Oxford one.
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Post by Kristie on Aug 28, 2007 12:21:25 GMT -5
My copy is a Signet Classic. All of my Austen books are from different publishers except P&P and Northanger Abbey which are both Signet Classics. I don't like it when they all match and they're not a series lol I don't think there's really any difference, but Oxford usually has the notes for certain things among the novel and it can help put it all in context.
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Post by lindsay on Aug 30, 2007 17:22:35 GMT -5
I personally like the penguin one because the notes are quite good especially when it comes to language that is dated. It's strange how words can completely change meanings!
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Post by Lu on Aug 31, 2007 8:11:17 GMT -5
That's good to know I love well-done endnotes and introductions. Good question, pageturner.
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Post by Carma on Apr 28, 2008 7:44:41 GMT -5
I saw a bit of the movie: Miss Austen regrets yesterday, and I thought it was funny that someone said to jane austen (about her books) that he found it funny that Elizabeth bennet only realizes that she loves Mr. Darcy after she has seen how big his house is. Never thought of it that way..
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Post by ItalianLaneGirl on Apr 28, 2008 14:44:03 GMT -5
Pageturner - good question! I've wondered that myself. There's many versions, and how do I decide which one has the best notes? Glad you all answered! I'm going to make a note of it!
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Post by Kristie on May 2, 2008 15:29:52 GMT -5
Since I last commented I've read the Annotated P&P and I would not recommend it for a first time reader. Yes, it has great notes, but it can also give away things that will happen later on in the book. So if you haven't read it and want to be surprised about every little thing, stick with the Oxford edition. I love the notes in my Oxford edition of Mansfield Park.
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Post by sagedautumn on May 7, 2008 7:29:51 GMT -5
That's true though. It is only AFTER she sees his huge house and the beautiful things in it does she realize how much she would be missing out on as "Mistress of Pemberly". Only then does she begin to regret her hastiness in refusing him. Kind of interesting, especially since Lizzie prides herself in wanting to marry for love and not for money and prestige.
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