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Post by Lu on Jul 7, 2008 15:09:27 GMT -5
I think she does it partly because she's bored but also because she really does care about people and wants to see them happy. She may seem like a silly girl sometimes, but she is a good person - just with a few faults. It's also not really her fault that she's bored - being a girl back then must have been soooo boring. Yes.. and I think that she likes to have credit of it. I do agree, and I think the happy result of Miss Taylor wedding might have influenced her
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Post by Lucky on Jul 7, 2008 15:16:26 GMT -5
Yes.. and I think that she likes to have credit of it. I do agree, and I think the happy result of Miss Taylor wedding might have influenced her Definitelly.
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Post by Carma on Jul 8, 2008 2:56:51 GMT -5
Just a side note.. my book doesn't have sections... and the chpaters go from 1 to.. ehm.. 55. Could someone maybe add that to the schedule? i might not be the only one.. but maybe I am.. I was alreday getting confused with the IIVX numbering.. it's been a while..
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Post by Lucky on Jul 8, 2008 4:11:21 GMT -5
Just a side note.. my book doesn't have sections... and the chpaters go from 1 to.. ehm.. 55. Could someone maybe add that to the schedule? i might not be the only one.. but maybe I am.. I was alreday getting confused with the IIVX numbering.. it's been a while.. I have the same problem. I haven't sections too. It's good to know that I'm not the only one .
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Post by Lu on Jul 8, 2008 4:13:28 GMT -5
Mine hasn't sections either. I add that to the schedule:
July 2, start discussing Part 1: Volume 1, Chapters I to VIII - Chapters 1 to 8 July 9, start discussing Part 2: Volume 1, Chapters IX to XVIII - Chapters 9 to 18 July 16, start discussing Part 3: Volume 2, Chapters I to VIII - Chapters 19 to 26 July 23, start discussion Part 4: Volume 2, Chapters IX to XVIII - Chapters 27 to 36 July 30, start discussing Part 5: Volume 3, Chapters I to VIII - Chapters 37 to 44 August 6, start discussing Part 6: Volume 3, Chapters IX to XIX - Chapters 45 to 55
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Post by Carma on Jul 8, 2008 4:26:11 GMT -5
thanks Lu!
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Post by Lucky on Jul 8, 2008 4:33:13 GMT -5
Big thank
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Post by Lu on Jul 8, 2008 5:06:32 GMT -5
you're welcome
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Post by erin on Jul 8, 2008 15:06:22 GMT -5
Thanks Lu.
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Post by Dominique on Jul 8, 2008 22:20:19 GMT -5
I think she does it partly because she's bored but also because she really does care about people and wants to see them happy. She may seem like a silly girl sometimes, but she is a good person - just with a few faults. It's also not really her fault that she's bored - being a girl back then must have been soooo boring. I agree, I think she is a good person but she probably really lacks stimulation. All they ever seem to do is visit the same people over and over again in this town and the only person who ever seems to challenge her is Mr Knightly. Now that her main friend has married and moved further away, while she still sees the woman nearly every day, she doesn't have that same amount of stimulation. I found it really ironic in that passage about Mr Weston being able to choose his own bride in Mrs Weston or something like that. It may be true to an extent but it also sounds like Emma was the one who chose him for her friend!
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Post by Lu on Jul 9, 2008 2:48:10 GMT -5
You're rigth Dom, that's probably the reason why I like when Emma and Mr.Knightley talk. Ok, part 2. a couple of questions to start with: 5. Why was Emma more struck by John Knightley's comment upon Mr. Elton's behaviour (chapter 13), than what Mr.Knightley said about him (in chpater 8)? Just for a matter of circumstance (she herself has begun to see some weirdnesses in mr. Elton's behaviour) or for other reasons? 6. Did you expect Mr. Elton's proposal to Emma?
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Post by erin on Jul 9, 2008 20:33:22 GMT -5
In chapter 8 I think Emma felt that she observered Mr. Elton and knew him well. because of this she was able to dismiss Mr. Knightley's own observations. In chapter 13 when Knightley says that Mr. Elton has his eyes on Emma she doesnt believe him at first but notices that Mr. Elton is in an extremely good mood being with her considering that Harriet is not there and will not attend the event. I think it takes her back that Mr. Knightley night be rightabout his feelings toward Emma and therefor Mr. Knightley may be correct in his observations Mr Elton when is comes to Harriet. This would mean that she is not giving Mr Knightley enough credit.
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Post by Dominique on Jul 9, 2008 20:42:33 GMT -5
I think because she's started to notice his behaviour and also because the comment that struck her had to do with Mr Elton liking her (unless I'm confused) and since the comment was about her she wasn't as able to delude herself as she was when it implied something to do with Harriet. She seems very quick to dream about others but when it comes to herself she can't. Also perhaps to not pay attention to Mr Knightly this time around would mean continuing to give Mr Elton attentions that were being misinterpreted, which isn't suitable or something society would like when nshe has no intention of marrying him. I did expect Mr Elton's proposal, but only because I've seen the movie with Gwenyth Paltrow in it
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Post by Lu on Jul 10, 2008 3:28:21 GMT -5
haha. I did expect Mr.Elton's proposal but only because I read Emma before. I have to admit that the first time I read the novel, I didn't expect it, I also remember I went back of some chapters and I noticed that Mr.Elton usually referred to Harriet as Miss Woodhouse's friends...I though it was weird. Did anyone notice that Austen often used reported speech for Mr.Elton?? perhaps it's just an impression of mine...never thought of that before.. I think because she's started to notice his behaviour and also because the comment that struck her had to do with Mr Elton liking her (unless I'm confused) and since the comment was about her she wasn't as able to delude herself as she was when it implied something to do with Harriet. She seems very quick to dream about others but when it comes to herself she can't. Also perhaps to not pay attention to Mr Knightly this time around would mean continuing to give Mr Elton attentions that were being misinterpreted, which isn't suitable or something society would like when nshe has no intention of marrying him. 5. I do agree with Dom. I also think that Emma had her very first suspect after Mr.Elton's charade and the reference to the "ready wit". btw, Mr.Knightley was right about Emma, she and Harriet started with a reading scheme and ended up transcribing riddles. ;D I found the conversation between Isabella and her father so funny they're so much alike, lol
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Post by Carma on Jul 10, 2008 6:51:14 GMT -5
I expected the wedding proposal because I've read the book before, and I was seeing all these clous now... OK girls, another few questions! 7. Everyone in Highbury appears to have an opinion about Frank Churchill, even if they never actually met him, what's your opinion of Frank Churchill? Do you agree with Emma or with Mr. Knightley about him?
8. In chapter 16 Emma thinks about the proposal and what went wrong etc. While thinking about it she implies that Mr. Elton asked her to marry him because she's of a better status. Do you think that is true? Did he want to marry her to 'trade up'?
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