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Post by bookaddict on Feb 17, 2007 17:14:51 GMT -5
Pippa, I just wish she could have more.
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Post by sagedautumn on Feb 17, 2007 17:52:43 GMT -5
I actually feel bad for Felicity. I mean she was sexually abused by her father!! But the character I honestly can't stand is Anne. She drives me insane!! Largely because she doesn't want to take control of her face and expects others to do something for her. She rather just whine.. I mean yea, I get your poor but you're not handicapped
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Post by bookaddict on Feb 17, 2007 17:59:23 GMT -5
Is this more in the second book, because I have not read it yet?
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Post by sagedautumn on Feb 17, 2007 18:12:04 GMT -5
Oh Sorry!! I think it was in the second book. Read it!! I really think we should have a book discussion! Like an ongoing one for all three of the books. But let's see
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Post by bookaddict on Feb 17, 2007 18:19:41 GMT -5
LOL I know I really want to read it. I'm reading Suite Francaise right now.
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Post by bookaddict on Feb 24, 2007 18:18:40 GMT -5
Ann feels just like a helpless person, same as how Pippa felt powerless to stop her marriage. Ann feels like she has no futures, because really in Victorian times she would have no future. Ann can only have a future if her magic will allow it. Victorian life was very strict and traditional. I wish more for Ann but I know the realities of the time, so her only chance is magic. Just the same I want Kartik and Gemma to get together, but I don't see how that can be acceptable. Certainly not in London, they would have to go back to India.
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Post by katiaisme on Feb 25, 2007 12:41:43 GMT -5
I really want to read these books,they sound really good.
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Post by sagedautumn on Feb 25, 2007 12:55:56 GMT -5
I think that the only thing that stopping Ann is Ann. She is the type of person who is constantly feeling sorry for herself and wants others to feel sorry for her as well. All of the girls have problems but they have the dignity to hide it from each other as much as they can except Ann. Gemma thinks she killed her mother, inevitably has to kill Circe, and an addicted fathe, Felicity has an incestuous pedifile father, Pippa's problem was her father's gambling caused the family to have nothing forcing her to engaged to unsavory men that she did not love. These are major problems.....
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Post by Michelle on Feb 25, 2007 13:38:39 GMT -5
I really want to read these books,they sound really good. Me too! I added it to my wishlist b/c you all made them sound so great.
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Post by bookaddict on Feb 25, 2007 15:42:54 GMT -5
I've read other Victorian Literature, and a girl who has a poor family has no options really. The difference is the others have money, so family connections can get them what they want. Men like Tom are predominant in Victorian life, they want an heiress and nothing more. Pippa has no choice because her family was running out of money, Ann has none to begin with. I understand that Ann needs to stop feeling sorry for herself but I can understand her situation. I'm not sure what Ann can do to better herself. All the girls will be separate once school is finished, and Ann will have no one but herself.
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Post by sagedautumn on Feb 26, 2007 13:03:38 GMT -5
The fact is that Ann is not only unwilling to accept her destiny but she is also unwilling to fight against it. Women like Jane Eyre and Elizabeth Bennet were willing to fight against their social restrictions, in this way Ann is completely stagnated, she just sits there unless someone shakes her up to do something about it. I understand her situation but what i am unable to comprehend is her inability to fight her own battles and instead whine and complain about her stature. Ann has been poor all her life she has been granted miracles that few people were unable to obtain(going to a prominent Boarding School) and yet she still sees herself downtrodden. The most annoying thing about Ann is that she expects people to fight for her but she is unwilling to do the same for Gemma i.e when Felicity sabotages Gemma with her ring. These aspects of Ann's personality irritate me because i believe that she has been given such amazing advantages in her life that she is unable to make use of and that is the sad thing about her fate. In certain angles Ann is actually more privledged than the other girls, she is free to make her own fate while the others must succumb to Victorian ideals
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Post by sagedautumn on Mar 9, 2007 17:01:53 GMT -5
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Post by sagedautumn on Mar 17, 2007 13:05:16 GMT -5
Libba has a new story in an anthology called 21-Proms. Amazingly, the book is about Proms AND to be even more coincidental there are 21 stories! Wow now where did they get a title like that?? Anyway I thought u guys should now..
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Post by cauthoncrazy on Mar 17, 2007 20:25:39 GMT -5
I am rereading the first one before I read the second. I can't wait.
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Post by sagedautumn on Apr 2, 2007 9:00:48 GMT -5
Bray has a little caption for the third book!!
Book Description IT HAS BEEN A YEAR OF CHANGE since Gemma Doyle arrived at the foreboding Spence Academy. Her mother murdered, her father a laudanum addict, Gemma has relied on an unsuspected strength and has discovered an ability to travel to an enchanted world called the realms, where dark magic runs wild. Despite certain peril, Gemma has bound the magic to herself and forged unlikely new alliances. Now, as Gemma approaches her London debut, the time has come to test these bonds.
The Order - the mysterious group her mother was once part of - is grappling for control of the realms, as is the Rakshana. Spence's burned East Wing is being rebuilt, but why now? Gemma and her friends see Pippa, but she is not the same. And their friendship faces its gravest trial as Gemma must decide once and for all what role she is meant for.
About the Author Libba Bray is the author of the New York Times bestselling novels A Great and Terrible Beauty and Rebel Angels. She lives in Brooklyn, New York, with her husband, son, and a cat of questionable intelligence.
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